# Remove default presentation? **URL:** \ **Category:** How-to use\ **Created:** [18 September 2020 16:45 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320 "2020-09-18T16:45:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/jdaviescoates/32/29_2.png) [@jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/u/jdaviescoates)\ **Post date:** [18 September 2020 16:45 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/1 "2020-09-18T16:45:19Z")
Hi, I [mentioned this before](https://forum.meet.coop/t/feedback-on-using-ca-meet-coop/272), but wanted to give it it’s own topic to more easily track progress. Is it possible to stop our BBB server automatically loading the Current presentation default.pdf whenever you join a room? I find it really quite annoying and would much prefer it be removed. I’d guess virtually every single user or our service would prefer it be removed too, no? If it can’t be removed and is a baked-in quirk of BBB, it is possible to customise it on a per-room basis? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![hng](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/hng/32/83_2.png) [@hng](https://forum.meet.coop/u/hng)\ **Post date:** [22 September 2020 11:32 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/2 "2020-09-22T11:32:42Z")
You should be able to set a different presentation in the room settings in Greenlight. ![Bildschirmfoto 2020-09-22 um 13.33.53](https://forum.meet.coop/uploads/default/original/1X/9205c1792dd45625cfa890b247b83bb15c353df4.png) ---
**Author:** ![jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/jdaviescoates/32/29_2.png) [@jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/u/jdaviescoates)\ **Post date:** [22 September 2020 11:35 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/3 "2020-09-22T11:35:27Z")
Would prefer to have no presentation at all (might that be possible in the future?), but ah yes, I see that now, thanks! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/wouter/32/318_2.png) [@wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/u/wouter)\ **Post date:** [23 September 2020 09:39 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/4 "2020-09-23T09:39:38Z")
yes indeed, you can upload a per room default presentation before entering the room. that’s a recently added feature. wrt the general default presentation slides, I think we’ll need to improve them rather than have nothing there. The current slide is one I made to substitute BBB’s default, to explain a few basics of meet.coop, but please give us inputs on what we can best have there, then we can produce a better one in the Product Circle. ---
**Author:** ![jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/jdaviescoates/32/29_2.png) [@jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/u/jdaviescoates)\ **Post date:** [23 September 2020 09:43 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/5 "2020-09-23T09:43:15Z")
I still think by far the best option would be for the default to be no presentation at all. ---
**Author:** ![benhylau](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/benhylau/32/12_2.png) [@benhylau](https://forum.meet.coop/u/benhylau)\ **Post date:** [23 September 2020 14:18 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/6 "2020-09-23T14:18:54Z")
We discussed this at the Tech meeting, and @dvdjaco and @osb will decide how to triage user needs and implement them into the product. ---
**Author:** ![benhylau](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/benhylau/32/12_2.png) [@benhylau](https://forum.meet.coop/u/benhylau)\ **Post date:** [23 September 2020 14:20 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/7 "2020-09-23T14:20:55Z")
Also, do you think it’s better if it’s a blank canvas with a small watermark at the bottom right + maybe a support email? That’s what I have seen in another provider and also what we do at Hypha. Having the blank canvas is usually very helpful to meetings. ---
**Author:** ![jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/jdaviescoates/32/29_2.png) [@jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/u/jdaviescoates)\ **Post date:** [23 September 2020 14:25 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/8 "2020-09-23T14:25:19Z")
I think that would be better than what we have a present. But really I only want a presentation to load if I (or someone) specifically wants to present something. I’d guess there is a reason why no other video meeting platform auto-loads a presentation by default, no? According to [someone on github](https://github.com/bigbluebutton/bigbluebutton/issues/9956#issuecomment-697301601): > Remove the default presentation and it won’t be loaded So perhaps that is an option? ---
**Author:** ![bhaugen](https://forum.meet.coop/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@bhaugen](https://forum.meet.coop/u/bhaugen)\ **Post date:** [6 March 2021 20:15 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/9 "2021-03-06T20:15:33Z")
Our reason for wanting to remove the default presentation is it gives more room for the images of the people in the room, which are more important. Otherwise everybody hastens to find the little minus sign on the upper right corner of the default presentation to remove it from their view. ---
**Author:** ![mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/mikemh/32/358_2.png) [@mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/u/mikemh)\ **Post date:** [29 March 2021 08:20 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/10 "2021-03-29T08:20:14Z")
My understanding is that BBB must open with all the options showing - two sidebars plus a presentation pane plus video thumbnails. I find that some people like this, and some don’t, compared with the mode that Zoom start up in (which is the opposite). There are no configuration switches (in Greenlight) that will alter this. The only tweak that’s available is for the room owner to set the presentation that appears on start up. This can easily be a blank pdf page, a photo of your favourite rabbit, or whatever. It could be a page saying: To remove this presentation pane, click the little blue minus button up there, top-right. I have a custom startup page in a couple of my rooms, different pages for different rooms. Getting rid of the presentation pane (top-right ‘minus’ button) is something that has to be done by each individual user. I assume that changing this (ie to a preset automatic action) is somewhere down in the guts of BBB, and is a piece of programming that meet.coop wouldn’t have the time (the priority) to attend to at this time? Whether meet.coop should put up a standard blurb on meet.coop, as the default presentation, is another question? Or a blank page with a small watermark, or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/jdaviescoates/32/29_2.png) [@jdaviescoates](https://forum.meet.coop/u/jdaviescoates)\ **Post date:** [6 April 2021 00:46 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/11 "2021-04-06T00:46:59Z")
> [@mikemh](#): > > My understanding is that BBB must open with all the options showing - two sidebars plus a presentation pane plus video thumbnails. There are definitely settings within BBB to hide the presentation. See e.g. [https://groups.google.com/g/bigbluebutton-dev/c/HSagadCtXEM?pli=1](https://groups.google.com/g/bigbluebutton-dev/c/HSagadCtXEM?pli=1) > > > \### What does this PR do? > > Fixes incorrectly displaying of "restore presentati…on" button if settings \`public.layout.hidePresentation\` and \`public.layout.autoSwapLayout\` are set to true > > \### Closes Issue(s) > > closes #11145 > > > Some organizations using BigBlueButton want the presentation area to start minim…ized, regardless if there is a webcam visible or not. > > We want to provide parameters for the \`join\` URL to start the BigBlueButton client in this sate.. > > Thinking out loud, one way to implement this would be to relax the constraint that the presentation can't be minimized unless there are (at least) one webcam displayed. In other words, add two parameters to the \`join\` URL that triggers the following behaviour > > 1. Relax the constraint and allow the presentation to be minimized without a webcam visible > 1. Start with the presentation minimized It seems the key settings are: ``` public.layout.hidePresentation public.layout.autoSwapLayout ``` Either of which can be set to `true` or `false` ---
**Author:** ![tibetsprague](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/tibetsprague/32/545_2.png) [@tibetsprague](https://forum.meet.coop/u/tibetsprague)\ **Post date:** [28 March 2022 20:26 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/12 "2022-03-28T20:26:56Z")
I would also like to be able to turn off the presentation showing by default ---
**Author:** ![NickM](https://forum.meet.coop/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/58f4c7/32.png) [@NickM](https://forum.meet.coop/u/NickM)\ **Post date:** [10 June 2022 11:05 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/13 "2022-06-10T11:05:03Z")
Getting a 413 error: Request Entity Too Large from nginx on setting the default. What’s the max size? (My pdf default is just over 2mb.) Edit: looks like it’s 1mb. That’s a bit small in my opinion. It seems to be possible to load a bigger one when the meeting has started, but not in advance without encountering the 413 error. ---
**Author:** ![wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/wouter/32/318_2.png) [@wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/u/wouter)\ **Post date:** [15 June 2022 09:31 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/14 "2022-06-15T09:31:12Z")
> [@tibetsprague](#): > > I would also like to be able to turn off the presentation showing by default Hi Tibet, we’re redesigning the default presentation to make it more helpful for meeting participants new to BigBlueButton, the software we use. But that’s not the answer to your question of course. If you don’t like that (upcoming) default, what you could do is to configure your preferable presentation slide in the room configuration (in the room options: “Add presentation)”. You could upload a 1 pixel picture, to be really minimalist… ---
**Author:** ![wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/user_avatar/forum.meet.coop/wouter/32/318_2.png) [@wouter](https://forum.meet.coop/u/wouter)\ **Post date:** [16 June 2022 13:22 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/remove-default-presentation/320/15 "2022-06-16T13:22:34Z")
With the help of a designer friendly to our collective - Karen Paalman in Amsterdam-, we have now a better illustration for the default presentation. With this we intent to make it easier for participants new to BigBlueButton. ![meet.coop_default_whiteboard_screen_15-06-22](https://forum.meet.coop/uploads/default/original/1X/a80facf85c3d8095528b595ccaeb3af5907f6c28.jpeg)