# Session#9 discussion
**URL:** https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029
**Category:** commons.hour sessions
**Tags:** member-user, community-circle, venue-space, principles, open-community
**Created:** [3 June 2022 18:26 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029 "2022-06-03T18:26:58Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/u/mikemh)
#### Post date: [3 June 2022 18:26 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029/1 "2022-06-03T18:26:59Z")
### Working in dual language online
This is a thread for discussion related to Session#9 of `commons.hour`.
Post-meeting links (including **video recording** , **shared notes** and **translations** ) are posted below.
For the original session announcement see: [Sign-up commons.hour session#9](https://forum.meet.coop/t/sign-up-commons-hour-session-9/1028)
> Meanwhile . . An hour in a video meeting isn’t going to tap all the dimensions!! Do please **get started** below at any time, on the big issues underlying this month’s session 👍
You might want to join this up with an old thread from January 2021: [Shared Learning Spaces](https://forum.meet.coop/t/shared-learning-spaces/550)
Also with this session: [Session#2 discussion](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-2-discussion/755) Ela Kagel - Supermarkt, Berlin: The political economy of community organising in digital spaces - Activist commitments, livelihood, contribution, privilege
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### Author:  [@mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/u/mikemh)
#### Post date: [28 June 2022 13:11 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029/2 "2022-06-28T13:11:08Z")
Here’s the full-feature video playback including slides and public chat : [Playback](https://bbb.de.meet.coop/playback/presentation/2.3/ff16731f1cbc3a25ea8332c15a0c65fb6e739b43-1656348711182)
Here’s the [mp4 download](https://bbb.de.meet.coop/download/presentation/ff16731f1cbc3a25ea8332c15a0c65fb6e739b43-1656348711182/ff16731f1cbc3a25ea8332c15a0c65fb6e739b43-1656348711182.mp4). Note: no slides, **just audio**.
And here’s [audio with video thumnails](https://bbb.de.meet.coop/presentation/ff16731f1cbc3a25ea8332c15a0c65fb6e739b43-1656348711182/meeting.mp4) Note: no presentation to be viewed in this session, just dialogue.
Pre-meeting framework and **some links** (en Francais) : [Framapad semestriel](https://semestriel.framapad.org/p/r.3b0c49071612e40f2e559589721e25e2)
Same thing, saved as as Markdown: [Nextcloud](https://cloud.meet.coop/s/4QwK8296RLocmHZ)
Public chat: [Nextcloud](https://cloud.meet.coop/s/JaRGBj6rXd6cHEG)
Shared notes: [Nextcloud](https://cloud.meet.coop/s/9z4k88a8eAJ5XtC)
Take-home items from the session: - Posted below [Session#9 discussion - #3 by mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029/3)
The links from the Framapad above:
- Game: Cards in Commons - [Cartes en Commun](https://cartesencommun.cc/index.php/Accueil) - All the cards for the game, produced during the WSF (Summer 2016, Montreal)
- Commons Camp Marseille - en présentiel (FR, EN, IT, ES, et +)
[https://commonscamp.cc/](https://commonscamp.cc/)
[https://www.teixidora.net/wiki/Commons\_Camp\_Marsella\_2020/fr](https://www.teixidora.net/wiki/Commons_Camp_Marsella_2020/fr)
- Commons Horizons - en ligne
[Common Horizons – Collectively addressing strategic issues for the commons](https://commonhorizons.cc/en/common-horizons/)
[https://www.teixidora.net/wiki/Horitzons\_comuns/fr](https://www.teixidora.net/wiki/Horitzons_comuns/fr) Horizons communs est une continuité du processus initié entre 2018 et 2020 dans l’axe des communs du FSMET/WSFET (World Social Forum of Transforming Economies) et du processus de confluence de l’activisme et des pratiques des communs à travers les Commons Camps.
[Définition des communs — Remix Biens Communs](https://wiki.remixthecommons.org/index.php/D%C3%A9finition_des_communs) - Une collection de fichiers vidéo contenant des définitions des communs, réalisés à partir d’entrevues faites à Berlin lors de la Conference Internationale sur le Bien Commun en 2010. Dans cette collection, chacun et chacune utilise la langue de son choix , cette dimension linguistique reflète la dimension interculturelle du projet Remix the Commons.
- [Camp Pixelache 2014: remix of the Commons — Remix Biens Communs](https://wiki.remixthecommons.org/index.php/Camp_Pixelache_2014:_remix_of_the_Commons)
- [MyPads](https://mypads.framapad.org/mypads/?/mypads/group/appel-en-commun-xv25ef7yn/pad/view/appel-en-commun-21-decembre-2021-wb1m9x7pc) - Présentation d **e** _ **La révolution des communs et le droit** _\*\*,\*\* dernier ouvrage d’Étienne Le Roy, Appel en commun 21 décembre 2021. Pdf download (Francais) [La révolution des communs et le droit. Nouveaux enjeux fonciers en Afrique, Amérique et Europe | Zenodo](https://zenodo.org/record/5730710)
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### Author:  [@mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/u/mikemh)
#### Post date: [30 June 2022 13:51 UTC](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029/3 "2022-06-30T13:51:32Z")
### Take-home - Post-meeting summary
We discussed:
- **Power and understanding** as dual aspects of language in a meeting and in a community
- **Contribution in the commons** of the meeting: the workings of translating and interpreting should be visible on the face of the meeting. It is **shared, mutualised work** , a work contribution in the commons of understanding and skill.
- **Language check** as an opening protocol in meetings.
- **Cards in commons** , a social game of commoning and its enemies - in multiple languages, with dual language content on any card.
- **Automated translation** possibilities
- **Tech strategies** within a meeting, experimented with:
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- a shared Etherpad in plural languages (coded in colours)
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- parallel rooms in BBB, one room per language.
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- closed captions
- **A protocols approach** has central importance (recognising contributors’ identities, resting in active facilitation in the meeting), in contrast with (in conjunction with) a tech approach (pads/parallel rooms/captions/automated translation - as above)
- **Timespan:** “The meeting is not just the meeting” - also pre- and post- work (design, research, async contributions, etc)
- **Documentation** of the practices and capabilities we’re speaking of. **Agreed** to explore ongoing documentation projects (commons.camp, Remix wiki, commons.card, [meet.coop](http://meet.coop) handbook. Etc?) and in-process media resources.
- **European Social Forum gathering** , Firenze, Nov 2022. **Agreed** to collaborate in bringing today’s insights and skills to design and facilitate of some elements at ESF2022. **Agreed** to stay in touch as we learn about the preparations (Remix, [meet.coop](http://meet.coop) in contact with Jason Nardi/RIPESS, femProcomuns).
- **Links** from the meeting are in the meeting discussion thread: [Session#9 discussion - #2 by mikemh](https://forum.meet.coop/t/session-9-discussion/1029/2)
- Links also part-duplicated in the French notes: [Framapad semestriel](https://semestriel.framapad.org/p/commons-hour-9v0f)